They are pretty much as hard to turn when disconnected. They don't feel being dragged by friction, but the magnets seem pretty strong. The fact that I was just turning just the shaft could also contribute to the feel.
I was just afraid that the ESCs will overheat, not that I actually experienced it. However, the motors themselves got hot faster than the ESCs.
Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:50 pm
MoonSet416
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Update:
Sorry school was very intense the past few weeks, couldn't do much to the bot.
Will be cutting the axles tomorrow, and the rest will be fitting everything and testing.
Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:38 pm
MoonSet416
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Bad news:
Due to my own stupidity and the conversion between metric and imperial, the inverted drive on Contraption IIC will probably not work. (the two wheels are too close to each other to fit.) I will fix this in future updates.
Good news:
I have some vague ideas of an update to this bot, including fixing issues and also some new features. However, those will come way after the Nationals. (I will need real fighting experience to evaluate the performance of the current design.)
Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:23 pm
Nick Experienced Roboteer
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Do you mean the main drive wheel and the smaller wheel above it? If they are Colson wheels, its not that hard to reduce their diameter. They need to be pressed together fairly tightly anyway, or the smaller wheels will slip. _________________ Australian 2015 Featherweight champion
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Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:06 pm
MoonSet416
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Glad to hear that.
They're not exactly Colsons, but Banebot wheels.(I guess they are kinda similar.) How would I reduce the diameter btw?
Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:19 am
Nick Experienced Roboteer
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On Colson wheels, you can spin them up on a drill and use a rough file to grind some tread off. The file need to be new & sharp and the wheel need to spin fast enough for friction to warm up the plastic - around 1000 rpm. You could probably do it with the Banebots motor & gearbox.
The Banebots wheels use a different plastic and may not behave the same way, so do a test on a spare wheel first. _________________ Australian 2015 Featherweight champion
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Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:48 am
chunkulator
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The banebots wheels come in a variety of hardnesses, so if you have one of the harder ones you might be able to shave it down. The softer ones are unlikely to file down well. The black banebots wheels are 60C hardness which are pretty close the the Colsons 65C hardness. The others are all softer.
Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:29 pm
maddox
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I use an anglegrinder with a flapdisk to "turn down" Colsons/blue/simular wheels.
Kos (Tough as Nails) did rebuild a bench grinder as lathe-tool to do the same.
Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:44 pm
MoonSet416
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Location: Sydney
Thanks for the info guys, will try that out tomorrow.
Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:14 pm
MoonSet416
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Update:
The fit between the side panels and the weapon motors is worse than I thought, so I had to do some filing. Even then the motors only fit in one way, which means that the frame must be assembled in a weird order, and to replace the motor I must disassemble half of the frame.
Despite that, the frame still came somewhat together and last night I did weapon testing with only one motor. The test was... err... a failure. The belt slipped cuz I forgot to put the tensioner in, and that made a pretty disturbing noise. The weapon did start after like half a second but I was a bit scared to let it spin too fast. Also because of clearance issues the second motor would not fit in without its pulley scraping the weapon. More filing needs to be done.
After cutting all the axles the drivetrain can now fit together, will probably do some drive testing today after I get some lube for the gearbox.
Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:59 am
MoonSet416
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I wonder what type of c-clip plier should I buy for the banebot wheels... There seem to be all kinds of different tips.
Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:21 am
Nick Experienced Roboteer
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Just take the circlip along to Bunnings and find the pliers that just fit. I like circlip pliers with a bent jaws - they help in tight places. _________________ Australian 2015 Featherweight champion
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Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:44 am
MoonSet416
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Thanks Nick.
Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:18 pm
MoonSet416
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Well... I forgot to buy a power light. With the event coming soon is there a way to buy one?
Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:57 pm
Nick Experienced Roboteer
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A quick trip to Jaycar will sort that problem out. Most builders use LEDs; you could buy some stick-on LED strip and wire two sections in series to run off a 6S, 22V battery or they sell 24V LED bezels like this:
https://www.jaycar.com.au/24v-chrome-bezel-led-red/p/SL2647
I would go with the LED strips - they look much better; you can also find them on eBay in many colours and brightnesses. _________________ Australian 2015 Featherweight champion
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