I just got my old site working again. I forgot all about it. Here's a link to the full national results.
http://www.hellfire-labs.s5.com/robot%20rankings.htm

If your robot has a green score it is above average, red for below average. The average for all the scores should be 1200, which is what new robots start at.

If that worked then this should be the excel spread sheet.
http://www.hellfire-labs.s5.com/robot%20rankings.xls
_________________
Get Some!!!

Secretary of the Queensland Robotics Sports Club inc.

If you guys want the job, I can create a sub-section of the RoboWars site and give you FTP access for you to post your rankings tables on.. ?

Nice work on the table too. Good to see I.G. up there.. The only Vic Bot in the Top 10..

Although I expect that will change this year as our state series gets going and us Vics get some more battles under our belts..
_________________
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people

Well very roughly the position on the table is roughly in order of wins - looses. This does more to your score then how old the robot is. If PQ wins 4 fights at the next Qld event with no looses then it'll roughly end up in fifth place.
*edit* But of corse Ballistic has 10 more points the Hellbringer, and that counts a lot.
*edit again* And I think PQ is more likly to spray its internals around the arena then win a fight.
_________________
Get Some!!!

Secretary of the Queensland Robotics Sports Club inc.

lol tineyest of beefs TSE and TSNG are the same just diff versions so wouldent that be slightly diff and also TSNG did win one or 2 matches in the previous marryong umm won one against crap which bot did it beat mirraculassly ?? cant rember now ummm i think it beat well it was either plan b or basilysk cause their the only 2 robots its gone up against in the last 2 marryong
*edit* we need to work out a system that intergrades with this one to work out the melees maby takeing the average score of all the bots in the melee as delta ie

((bot a: 2400 bot b:1100 bot c: 10000 bot d:100 etc...) <------ average of theese scores worked out=x amount)
x amount / amout of bots in melee = delta

nfi if that would work cause i aint no mathamatition or literature expert for that matter as you can see but it looks good to me care to test this out?
_________________
as a shadow is seen and not heard i am here
-Waddy the phoenix

quote:

---

Originally posted by Waddy the phoenix:
lol tineyest of beefs TSE and TSNG are the same just diff versions so wouldent that be slightly diff and also TSNG did win one or 2 matches in the previous marryong umm won one against crap which bot did it beat mirraculassly ?? cant rember now ummm i think it beat well it was either plan b or basilysk cause their the only 2 robots its gone up against in the last 2 marryong
*edit* we need to work out a system that intergrades with this one to work out the melees maby takeing the average score of all the bots in the melee as delta ie

((bot a: 2400 bot b:1100 bot c: 10000 bot d:100 etc...) <------ average of theese scores worked out=x amount)
x amount / amout of bots in melee = delta

nfi if that would work cause i aint no mathamatition or literature expert for that matter as you can see but it looks good to me care to test this out?

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Waddy the phoenix:
we need to work out a system that intergrades with this one to work out the melees maby takeing the average score of all the bots in the melee as delta ie

((bot a: 2400 bot b:1100 bot c: 10000 bot d:100 etc...) <------ average of theese scores worked out=x amount)
x amount / amout of bots in melee = delta

nfi if that would work cause i aint no mathamatition or literature expert for that matter as you can see but it looks good to me care to test this out?

---

The main problem I see with melees is the winner may not have been the robot to beat the loosers. There may be two powerful robots that go hard at eachother and half wreck eachother while another, through no fault of it's own, is ignored until the less damaged powerful bot limps over at the end.

On the other hand, the points don't worry me so much. I just like to play with the robots. I enloyed loosing 0/2 as much as I enjoyed winning an event.
_________________
So even the rain that falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and our river systems

well its pretty cool to see SORRY at number 1 mitch my son was over the moon he loved it ,and now i have the added pressure from him to remain there ohh goody
as for ranking melees well its tough ,we dont even place judging criteria into ours really ...because of the 7 or so we have had ,its been an odvious choice in most cases ,and thats the one still moving in the end damage has been known to wide spread and in many cases parts untracable till weeks later we have had a couple of draws and thats due to controversy easily solved that way giving the 2 bots left 1 point each
as much as we do score them they are more fun than anything ,and a way to get back at a few blokes after the rounds proper ...not to mention its a favourite of jakes and nicks and who are we to let them down and not cast our bots into the shredder 'literally' mmmmmm now i think about it ,with such little time on my hands this season i might hide in a safe corner this year ....so in conclusion i would suggest scoring melles seperately and build a new ranking based on them alone . just my thoughts
_________________
Photos - http://community.webshots.com/album/154092733uokpXC
Photos- http://community.webshots.com/album/166819552PDWWqP

Ok, I'll leave playing with melee's till the week end when I'll crunch some numbers.

In the mean time look at this equation:
Percentage chance of winning = 1/(1 + 20^(-(robot 1 - robot 2)/400))

eg, Annihilation has a 22.54% chance of beathing El Bravo
_________________
Get Some!!!

Secretary of the Queensland Robotics Sports Club inc.

Contrary to my above post, I now think that you deserve recognition for winning a melee. Just being able to have your robot moving at the end of an event is an achievement.

The points being determined by the number of combatants sounds like a good system.
_________________
So even the rain that falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and our river systems

the numbers look good

as for TSNG it "did" have a wedge then got flattned out to a scoop in a match as for the drive enhancements it would be the same or on similar terms be like upgrading from xu1 's to i dont know scooter motors the 4wd was what i origionally was going to do but ran out of time and instead upgraded the chassy so realy its just the upgraded version and i know its probably skiing fery close to being a new robot but when you watch its evolution from TS being a massive wedge to TSE being a wedge brick to TSNG being a brick with a wedge added you can see that its sections are overlaping all of its vital parts have remained the same (control ibc and reciever drive drill motors wheels redwheels then upgraded to jakes wheels) but if every one sees it as a new bot its fine by me
_________________
as a shadow is seen and not heard i am here
-Waddy the phoenix

Actually the only time I've seen your robots have been in person. Without pictures or video's from your events I have to guess for this sort thing.
_________________
Get Some!!!

Secretary of the Queensland Robotics Sports Club inc.

hmmm what about match vidios or did you like every one else skip downloading my fights because i was in it
_________________
as a shadow is seen and not heard i am here
-Waddy the phoenix

Who here understands this sort of thing?

quote:

---

The code is all here:

http://botrank.com/~botrank/go
http://botrank.com/~botrank/z1
http://botrank.com/~botrank/z2
http://botrank.com/~botrank/z3
http://botrank.com/~botrank/z4
http://botrank.com/~botrank/z5

The source data file is here:

http://botrank.com/~botrank/data/data

The calculations are in http://botrank.com/~botrank/z2

The calculations are bgmoon's from the chess ranking for bots discussion.

but it boils down to:

Winner:
D=K * (1 - (1 / (1 + (10 ^ ((BR2-BR1) / ER)))))
Loser:
D=K * (0 - (1 / (1 + (10 ^ ((BR1-BR2) / ER)))))

D is Delta change in ranking score
K is defined in http://botrank.com/~botrank/z2 as 35
ER is defined in http://botrank.com/~botrank/z2 as 600
BR1 is winner's current ranking score before this fight
BR2 is loser's current ranking score before this fight

---

These are Unix shell scripts.. The unix equivalent of autoexec.bat batch files

You can run them on a home Linux system or I can set them up on the RoboWars server if you guys want to feed them data ?
_________________
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people