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Has anyone actually broken one of these belts (as opposed to having it cut by an opponent)? The belts are normally used to haul a person and the scooter with batteries (60Kg let's say) up & down slopes. It should stand up to quite a bit of abuse in just a 13.6Kg robot, particularly if there are two or four motors doing the driving.
If anyone is worried about breaking the belt, its probably easier to convert them to chain drive rather than spur gears, plus you get a wider range of reduction choices.
Has anyone ever been able to remove the sprocket from one of the 100W Oatley scooter motors? I had a go and mine seem to be glued on _________________ Australian 2015 Featherweight champion
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:31 pm
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They are molded onto the inside of the wheels hub nick
O and reboot broke a gearbox at this robowars event and lost its allmost won match becouse of it
Was sad to se it happen as i think it would have been in the final against plan b. _________________ Tim Team Reaper.
Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:48 pm
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Spur gears are much lighter then chain and sprocket and don't get affected by g-force in spinner hits. Plus with Spurs giving me from 12t-80t, I can choose a hundred odd gearing configurations, and this is only using MOD 1 gears.
I'm having a little dificulty getting the pully off the motor too Nick, I'm looking at the hammer in a few mins _________________ https://www.halfdonethings.com/
Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:55 pm
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No, I meant the metal sprocket on the motor shaft. The shaft has a circlip on the end but on my motors, taking that off did nothing - there seemed to be epoxy glue on the motor shaft and the sprocket just wasn't going to come off without a fight!
You can convert the plastic wheel to chain drive pretty easily by slicing off the moulded sprocket and screwing on a chain sprocket with a spacer behind it to hold it off the wheel body. You would get higher power transmission at the cost of extra weight. The other advantage with chain is that you can make it any length you need. _________________ Australian 2015 Featherweight champion
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:58 pm
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Sorry Arron, missed your post Go the hammer!!! _________________ Australian 2015 Featherweight champion
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:59 pm
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I managed to get one off. I heated up the shaft, and it burnt the glue off, then tapped the pully off (with a bit of damage and some large force )
The motor looked okay, but when I tried to turn the shaft it was very stiff. I stripped it down and it seems the top skateboard bearing is a bit retarded now. So will replace both motor bearings with some spare ABEC-3's i have here somewhere. Getting the top bearing off with out damaging the windings might be fun if it's a hassle, I'll just order a new one. _________________ https://www.halfdonethings.com/
Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:26 pm
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Geaorge had the same probs trying to get the motor pullys off to and they are still on the motor as i have them now lol _________________ Tim Team Reaper.
Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:54 pm
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uaully Just a bit of gentle heat with a propane torch lets the sprocket come of the scooter motor easily.
ReBoot had a good chance of winning against plan B up until one of the drive belts broke, were running the belts tighter in ReBoot as we had trouble with the belts in mini mower striping the teeth.
Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:50 pm
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That sucked didnt it
I feel ya pain _________________ Tim Team Reaper.
Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:54 pm
Rob Team Rotwang
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We will try some Polyurethane and Kevlar to strengthen the drive belts in ReBoot..
Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:54 pm
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Hey that was my idea look on page 2 _________________ Tim Team Reaper.
Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:58 pm
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we thaught that you were immobalised thats why we stopped attacking and started driving figure-8's.
what is the rule on immobalisation? _________________ Mechanical engineers build weapons, civil engineers build targets
Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:10 pm
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quote:Originally posted by Team Hell Bent!:
Geaorge had the same probs trying to get the motor pullys off to and they are still on the motor as i have them now lol
Dont have a torch of sorts so In these situations just clamp the motor in a work horse and grind the top of the gear flat, turn it 180 degrees and grind the opposite end flat. eventually it will crack off.
Its pretty hard metal so will take a few minutes but it gets the job done.
Keep a wet rag on hand to cool down the shaft between grinds, it gets hot.
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:26 pm
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How about sit the the lip on the end of the pully in a bench vice and tap or hammer the motor shaft till it pushes threw? _________________ Tim Team Reaper.
Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:14 pm
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That's what I did and it just broke part of the gear and shifted teh motor bearing somehow _________________ https://www.halfdonethings.com/
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