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Philip
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Location: Queensland near Brisbane
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OT I was going to reference Pratchett in a robot name once, but thought no one would get it.
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Originally posted by seanet1310:
Did you read your link at all? (Also, Wikipedia is not the most accurate of sources)
Let me help you out
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In fossil fuels ...
At no point did it mention results just being discarded. It presents potential reasons why.
That is the section I pointed out. The fact that I was raising is that all organic material contains C14. If just one in a million contained C14, you could reasonably write it off as error. But why do they assume that every test result is wrong? Is it because it disagrees with the original assumption of vast age?
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Have a read of the website
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/part1-3.html
3/5 of the way down the page for anyone wishing to find the relevant quote. The reason I quoted an evolutionist is because he believes evolution. Gould's comments dispute what the video was saying.
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If you feel like educating yourself on evolution beyond quote mines from http://www.answersingenesis.org
check out http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html
Actually, I do read both creation and evolution sites from time to time. I like watching debates between PhDs on the subject of origins. It gives both sides a chance to put across their respective views. By the way, I haven't been to the above linked site so I don't know if it is good or bad.
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Originally posted by seanet1310:
i remember seeing a documentary that Nazareth did not even exist when jesus was meant to be born there. A quick wiki research seams to support this. Got to love that highly accuate historical record :S (If it did exist, indications are it was extremely tiny and not mentioned in anything non bible for hundreds of years)
Actually, Jesus was born in Bethlehem but grew up in Nazareth. It was apparently an insignificant town by Nathaniel's statement.
John 1:46 (ESV)
46) Nathanael said to him, “Can anything good come out of Nazareth?” Philip said to him, “Come and see.”
I will get back to your mega post latter. I am out of time now. _________________ So even the rain that falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and our river systems
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Philip
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Joined: 18 Jun 2004
Posts: 3842
Location: Queensland near Brisbane
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Originally posted by Philip:
All people, homosexual and heterosexual, go to Heaven based only on belief in Jesus. In biblical terms, we are saved by grace through faith.
Jude 1:7: ... forget your bible facts there phil? also
In Romans 1:26-27, ...
No I didn't forget them. I will stand by my original statement. Did you read the verses preceding the quoted verses? In both cases the people first rejected God.
Jude 1:4 (ESV)
4) For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who
pervert the grace
of our God into sensuality and
deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ
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Rom 1:23 (ESV)
23) and
exchanged the glory of the immortal God
for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
What about homosexuals who don't reject God and his grace such as those found in the church at Corinth?
1Cor 6:9-11 (ESV)
9) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor
men who practice homosexuality
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10) nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11)
And such were some of you
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But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ
and by the Spirit of our God.
The apostle Paul calls these people to whom he is addressing, including the homosexuals, in this letter "saints".
1Cor 1:2 (ESV)
2) To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be
saints
together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:
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henever rocks of known age are measured with this method, the dates from radiometric dating are much older than the observed dates. Such as, an eight year old sample from Mt St Hellens being dated at 1.7 Ma and 3 Ma.
I am lazy, Have a read of this.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mtsthelens.html
Why did you follow my statement about erroneous igneous rock dates with a web page about coal formation?
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Eph 2:8-9 (ESV)
8) For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
9) not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Does this mean if I have 100% faith that Jesus and God exist as does heaven even if I am the worlds biggest child murderer (well second, I could never catch God) who enjoyed doing unspeakable things to thousands of people I would get into heaven as I had faith and did not boast? At the same time an Atheist (or Hindu etc) who rescued 10 children when a bus ended up in a river, donated a kidney to a stranger who was about to die, has personally built a school, well and taught faming techniques in africa and has always attempted to do right by humans would go to hell?
We are only offered heaven as a free gift by grace through faith. We can never earn it by good works or giving money to charity or heroic acts. The criminal on the cross beside Jesus is a good example of this. Another is a parable told by Jesus. One person tried to be declared righteous by his deeds the other asked for mercy.
Luke 18:9-14 (ESV)
9) He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt:
10) “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
11) The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
12) I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’
13) But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’
14) I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”
We have all done something wrong at some time in our lives. We have lied or cheated or what ever else. That means we are all guilty. The Good News is that Jesus died to pay for all the guilt of the entire world. Grace is offered to everyone as a free gift. We can accept it by faith or refuse it. _________________ So even the rain that falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and our river systems
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