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Spockie-Tech
Site Admin
Joined: 31 May 2004
Posts: 3160
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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This is just my persons p.o.v. Sean, so
dont let it upset you.. I might be wrong.
But having been involved in many cloubs over the years and watched their workings, I consider them to generally be a complete waste of time that would be better spent elsewhere.
Either a few key peoeple have drive, skill and passion to get things done, in which case, a clubs forms, rules etc just slow them down and get in the way..
or amongst the members, you just have a lot of medioce members with little drive which the club disguises with its forms, regulations, meetings and proceedures, making it look like "Work" is beind done,
but it usually work that controbutes very little towards the goal of doing whatever the club is deigned to do, and more about the "work" of running the clubs various proceedural systems.
The one situation where a clubs formal environment is of *some* advantage is in the event of two strong-willed, yet opposed members butting heads over how something should be done. The club environment turns it into a "political" fight, where each manuevers politically to try to get more members supporting their point of view so as to carry votes, rather than just whoever has the strongest ego wins.
Other than that, they just suck up energy for very little useful output. (in my opinion).
Victoria a bit quiet at the moment ? Hell, you have the best scenario of any state of Australia setup and just sitting there waiting for you .. a battle-tested arena permanently set up in an open-access, insured, staffed public venue, with covered pits, workshop facilities, parking food and side entertainments, and not *1* person can pull their finger out enough to organise an event with any significant attentance ??
What that tells me is that all the roboteers down here are either lazy-asses who CBF'ed unless someone does it all for them (and have a habit of dropping out at the last moment), or else they have no idea how to go about organising an event.. and I have offered to instruct/assist anyone who puts there name forth as a front man to run the show.. provided they are going to stick at it and put on a few whilst interst *maybe* recovers.
but all I hear are excuses.. Joes moved here, Freds overseas, Im busy with School, Mary doesnt want to.. blah blah. Until that changes and someone gets the cojones to step up to the plate and commit to a series of events that happen, form all the clubs you like, I bet all that will happen is paperwork.
Vic could be turned around, but it needs someone with *drive* to take the wheel, or its just going to keep doodling about in circles. _________________ Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people
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Jaemus
Experienced Roboteer
Joined: 01 Apr 2009
Posts: 2674
Location: NSW
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quote:
Originally posted by Spockie-Tech:
Victoria a bit quiet at the moment ? Hell, you have the best scenario of any state of Australia setup and just sitting there waiting for you .. a battle-tested arena permanently set up in an open-access, insured, staffed public venue, with covered pits, workshop facilities, parking food and side entertainments, and not *1* person can pull their finger out enough to organise an event with any significant attentance ??
What that tells me is that all the roboteers down here are either lazy-asses who CBF'ed unless someone does it all for them (and have a habit of dropping out at the last moment), or else they have no idea how to go about organising an event.. and I have offered to instruct/assist anyone who puts there name forth as a front man to run the show.. provided they are going to stick at it and put on a few whilst interst *maybe* recovers.
All due respect, but i might suggest that you may want to sound less generally discouraging about it whenever it is mentioned, all seriousness and dedication is important, but you've never exactly made it sound appealing to anyone IMHO _________________ <Patrician|Away> what does your robot do, sam
<bovril> it collects data about the surrounding environment, then discards it and drives into walls
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Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:37 pm |
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